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Friday, May 26, 2006


Assignment 2. Gallery prep work TUESDAY 8am-

Alright the plan is meet for painting and scraping TUESDAY 8am - 10am (or as long as you can or want to work). Some of you like Chad Sorg, Matt McDowell, and Anthony Alston would rather do Wednesday so we'll have a second round that day as well. I would really love to have everyone there for Tuesday morning though because I want to create a timelapse animation of the space being erased as each person is standing in front of their piece from last year. I'll fill you in on more of the details when we're there, so try to be on time...or you just might lose a donut.
Also I've been talking with Ahren and Caedron about planning for the side of the alley that will be the collaborative mural and we decided on a few elements that we think are absolutely necessary for it to be clean and 100% booyarific. If you do not like the strictness of it keep in mind that the opposite wall is free and twice as big. The rules for the collabo wall are,
1. A minimal pallette which is followed and uniform throughout. We would build a base using colors that aren't intense and do not become opaque. So warm browns or maybe greys. Than introduce perhaps several shades of blue which are used consistenly by all on that side. From that point we would collectively decide which colors to further introduce and where.
2. Elimate intangible space. There needs to be a reason for your character's postioning or your letterings placement. Objects that emerge from the base need to appear as such. Images floating by need to be floating for a reason like a rope, a gust of wind, a sweet pair of go-go gadget boots.
3. Follow the theme. With such a vague theme, the people interested in working on the collabo side would devise a more specific theme put in the context of a specific environment with elements that relate to one another for that space. Most of us already paint thematically. Most of us also paint our theme using an individual "style". Without sacrificing our individual style we may have to sacrifice our individual theme to meet the demands of the whole instead of reverting to any sort of comfort zone. Meaning, I can not paint anything having to do with the railroad. Ok, you get my drift.
If you would like to become involved with the whip crackers let me, Ahren, or Caedron now and we'll start sketching out a game plan soon.



Idea departure for comment to Davis.



..and Nick L. go here... http://www.vkn.lv/index.php?parent=525 ...to see what I was talking about.

18 Comments:

Blogger Over Under said...

Sculpture: I want to make a life sized book at one of the ends of the gallery. It will serve as a book to explain the event, the artists, and the space as well as a door to enter and exit through. I haven't figured out yet if I want it to pivot off one side or to be centered and open like saloon doors. For material, I would like to use about 14 1/8' pieces of plywood, 4"x4' post, burly door hinges, some sort of sealer to preserve the pages, and various print and collage bastardizations for the layout. The weight will definately be an issue and I will more than likely have to consult an engineer or a clamper.
The only other thing I wish to work on would be collaborating with those who want to screen video...and helping people with whatever else they need help with.

8:23 PM

 
Anonymous nick l. said...

3-Dimensional Drawing/Print Installation (?): I want to use approximately 100 of the transparent frames that i showed at the first meeting to create a "red meat" style comic narrative using , i think, the same image of Magic Johnson over and over. The frames will be hung so that they are perpendicular from the wall and sticking out. i also think i will probably paint something simple and graphic around the bases of the frames, so that my section is visually interesting when viewed from the front as well (probably using the recurring color if we decide to use one) . the only thing i am not sure of is if it shoud be lit somehow. erik and i very briefly talked about doing something similar to buz's shadow portraits, but we didn't really get very far with it.

9:14 AM

 
Blogger yale said...

3D glasses and images, I mentioned this earlier to Erik about working with 3D imagery and trying to recreate those effects. I would like to explore working this through wall paintings, photography, and maybe sculpture. I have a few articles colleted about creating three-dee images and how it works, I would love to share them if you are interested. As far as painting in 3D I have never done it so it will be an experiment, but I think that the off set look of red blue and the image can look visually interesting with out the 3D glasses, because it references something “magical” that we are all familiar with. If there is any one that its interested in helping me investigate this I would love to work with you.

12:08 PM

 
Anonymous Davis Limbach said...

i was thinking of painting a grand image of a child playing videogames (or something) on the broad back of a majestic unicorn, most magical of horses, and the cord plugged in to the horn, where the magic comes from...that's where my imagination has felt most strong so far.

3:53 PM

 
Anonymous over under said...

Davis: maybe certain parts could be painted in an atari bitmap sort of a way? have you seen the video game painting in the Clarion Alley, S.F? I'll try to dig up a pic. i was only thinking that because maybe your painting could be placed near Nick L. installation in a way that as your Nintendo slaying, unicorn riding piece approaches Nick's rectangular frame installation it could become more rectangular as well. That way it would have be a nice transition between two separate ideas.

4:09 PM

 
Blogger Over Under said...

Nick: I'm not sure what "red meat" is...you mean literal pictures of red meat with the one and only Magic J superimposed over it or...? Since it sounds as if you are building upon this single portrait I'm wondering how you will construct a narrative with it. I saw a really interesting piece where someone stenciled one of 6 images on various places. Now each of the 6 images was a still from a robot walking. The stencils were all randomly placed and documented with a photo camera. Each photo was then placed in the correct order and alligned in a video program (like iMovie or Final Cut) so that when played, the robot began walking and the background would randomly change. Just a recent idea I saw of creating a narrative using a repetitive image.

I think lighting all depends where your piece develops. If it stays with the black line work on plexi than making them side lit would create some ellongated abstract shapes. Perhaps you could figure out a way that the shadows actually recreate the iconic image of Magic Johnson and the line drawings are the abstractions.

4:32 PM

 
Anonymous nick l. said...

red meat is a comic strip in the reno news & review (maybe the sacramento one too?). its always three panels, and the three panels are always exactly the same. the only thing that changes is what the character is saying in his talk bubble. i think i am going to have the magic johnson image stay the same like the character in red meat does, but have the background changing behind him. does that make sense?

http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/

6:26 AM

 
Blogger Over Under said...

oh yeah, now I remember Red Meat. But what about applying them to the wall? Temporary, Permanent, or Permanent till taken? Similar to the mix tape fiasco at S.A. (with less stress)?

10:26 AM

 
Anonymous Caedron said...

I wanna paint tarot-like cards flying across the wall with different images om them, other people would be welcome to paint some of them with thier own images in that type of iconography. Also, a few of us have chatted about the cohesivness of the wall with regards to theme and scheme, and we figured that to make it very unified we will have to be strict about the organization of the composition and color use. We talked about only alotting so many colors at a time to paint with and limiting the total amount of colors. That is not only a specific pallette, but a pallette that is used specifically. I don't know who the paint-Fuhrer will be, but...

7:51 PM

 
Anonymous nick l. said...

erik- i was thinking the more permanent the better. the only reason not to do it mega-permanent would be because it would present a challenge when/if the next (con)temporary gallery season rolls around. i think regardless of how i hang them, a sledgehammer + chisel would probably be enough to break them off.

in response to caedron's post, i'm also in favor of a limited color palette + a more thought-out composition.

8:43 PM

 
Anonymous toni rock said...

i tried to comment last week but there was only the blogger option and it wouldn't let me...so to complete the assignment...here it goes...

so...i was thinking about unicorns as well...for the whole magic theme...as well as pegasus...er rather pegasi? anyway...my idea was a bit on the morbid side, or maybe evil side of magic...i wanted to paint a battle scene between a unicorn and pegasus, kind of in this comic book style with an explosion type background...

but i knew someone clever would most likely be thinking about unicorns as well...

oh yes...and did i mention that there would be silver blood in my image along with a possible unicorn horn stab wound?...maybe a bit too graphic?

9:47 PM

 
Anonymous toni rock said...

oh yes i forgot...i too am in favor of a color scheme, or at least a single color that flows throughout, or is simply hinted at... to bring in the space, to make something more cohesive.

9:52 PM

 
Blogger yale said...

for you pixel freaks that maybe want to check out some color schemes play around on this site, maybe it’s a start to picking colors.

http://www.colormatch.dk/

10:20 AM

 
Anonymous Tova said...

Interactive sculpture: It's a rectangular metal frame roughly the dementions of a standing adult male with a white sheet stretched across it on hooks. People are ivited to touch the sheet or throw rocks at it. "Blood" spots will appear wherever you touch it, courtesy of an inkpad rigged up behind the sheet. Have you ever wanted to hurt something...

12:53 PM

 
Blogger Over Under said...

Ok, to paraphrase it seems like we've got Magic Johnson, Red Meat comics, Red and Blue 3-D imagery, unicorns (battlewounds and bitmapped), reactive blood sheet, magic tarot cards, and a giant book. Since we're still lacking ideas from the others it leaves us with the above as a base. Blood seems to be in the collective consciousness which we can roll with or not. Before imposing my own preference I think we should all meet in the alley for a casual meeting disguised in the form of scraping/painting. During which time we can get the agenda set, collaborations on, and pallette determined. I'm 100% behind Caedron's comment of a "specific pallete that is used specifically." Which with all the blood references seems to be red. I'll be at Anthony's B_RD show this weekend and it seems that would be a good place to congregate and schedule our alleyway clubhouse cleansing. If you can't make it call or email me. Thanks

4:21 PM

 
Blogger Over Under said...

F- for those that have not commented yet.
no hard feelings chums

4:26 PM

 
Blogger PasseCliche said...

Are the short films and videos to be tied in conceptually/aesthetically (i.e. the color palette + theme for the walls)? Depending on the verdict, other ideas may need to be implemented or used in lieu of video work.

Other idea #1: large (10-12ft tall, 3-4 wide)wooden cylinders with rotatable sections, i.e. a hollow totem pole or prayer wheel. The tops and bottoms would be affixed or secured in a responsible manner so as to decrease liability/chance of injury. Painted blood = good, but real blood = bad.

#2: performance with joe carson. extremely tenative, but the suggestion has been made and an interest displayed both parties to be involved. primary source material includes "waiting for godot" and "the alchemist".
highly recontextualized, most likely...

6:29 PM

 
Blogger Over Under said...

I think it would be cool if the videos were invovled witht the environment to a certain extent, but exact color matches is a bit too strict. I'm wondering if you want to do something similar to the B_RD show with monitors submerged in grass. Or would you rather project? Because I imagined projecting video shorts at a particular time on the white wall in the parking lot. Or on the shed like last year. For people like you Tony, I met with an electrician in the space today to figure out how we can get more power. Things look good and this year we should have no problem with outlets of power. So monitor/project away, but tie it into the space like you do so well.

12:17 AM

 

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